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Inverter Help Please

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9:57 pm
June 6, 2009


Hackercraft

Mod Newbie

Linden, Mi

posts 2

 I am going to install an upright freezer in the washer/drier space in my fifth. I plan on installing an inverter and two or four 6volt batteries to power it in between plugins.  My question is this. Is it better to run the 12 volt power a distance or the 110? There is space to mount the batteries and the freezer and a small fridge for cold beer and wine in the closet which is next to where the manufactuer mounted the converter to charge the batteries. Also will  I need a second converter or just a switch?

 What do you think?

 Hacker

35' Challenger and a Duramax Dually

7:31 am
June 7, 2009


Skinned Knuckles

Mod Enthusiast

posts 9

110 VAC will carry over distance better than 12 VDC will.

You should not need a second converter if you're not adding any new 12 VDC loads. (Don't for example run an inverter from a converter. ;)  )

1:00 pm
June 11, 2009


sw23185

Mod Newbie

posts 4

The cabling between your batteries and the inverter will need to be kept as short as possible in order to minimize voltage loss regardless of conductor size.  Use the AC wiring for distribution of power over longer distances.

You should NOT have flooded batteries inside the closet with your new freezer, inverter, etc. For that matter you should NOT have them inside the living area of your trailer, period.  Sorry to be harsh but this is a major safety issue!

The batteries need to be sealed off from the living space and vented downward and outward to prevent the buildup of explosive gases during the charging process.  The only exception to this rule would be the substantially more expensive AGM (asborbed glass mat) or gel batteries which are sealed and relatively safe from outgassing but even then you must be very careful if they aren't charged with a high tech charger designed specifically for these alternative technologies.

Inverter installations are rather complicated to do correctly due to wire sizing, fusing, and other safety requirements.  If you aren't familiar with this kind of modification please consult a qualified professional for help …

2:25 pm
June 11, 2009


ModMyRV

Admin

Gardnerville, NV

posts 301

sw23185 said:

For that matter you should NOT have them inside the living area of your trailer, period.  Sorry to be harsh but this is a major safety issue!

The batteries need to be sealed off from the living space and vented downward and outward to prevent the buildup of explosive gases during the charging process.  The only exception to this rule would be the substantially more expensive AGM (asborbed glass mat) or gel batteries which are sealed and relatively safe from outgassing but even then you must be very careful if they aren't charged with a high tech charger designed specifically for these alternative technologies.

While I agree that there is a safety issue with regard to flooded lead acid batteries inside the living area, this would more apply to improper installation than as a “never do”. I have 4 6-volt batteries mounted under my TT's bed. It is a sealed and vented enclosure.

In addition, I have a voltage-sensing electronic switch that determines what the charging voltage is at all times. This switch powers a small fan that pulls out any gasses caused by high rates of charge. The gasses exit out of the TT via a sealed tube the fan is mounted to. Should this fan ever fail, there is a natural convection crossflow ventilation from the air inlet at the bottom of the enclosure to the higher exit from the TT.

I have had this setup for 2 years now and it works quite well. Just a disclaimer though: what works for me may not work for someone else so of course, use your own best judgement.

Happy modding!

9:22 am
June 12, 2009


sw23185

Mod Newbie

posts 4

Well if as you say “It is a sealed and vented enclosure” then arguably it's not inside the living area of the trailer … this sounds like you've done all the right things and the net result is that it's no different than the battery compartments/drawers found in many higher-end fivers or motorhomes.

I guess the point is that if you're going to install a high power inverter then you need to understand the requirements in terms wiring, ventilation, breakers, fuses, etc.  They're just not something for the typical weekend warrior to fool with …

10:20 am
June 12, 2009


ModMyRV

Admin

Gardnerville, NV

posts 301

Yes, you are absolutley right. An inverter installation is nothing to take lightly. I remember about 10 years ago when I did my first installation. I reversed the hot and the neutral wires inside the transfer switch box and when a powered up the system, smoke poured out of the inverter. Now I have a physical checklist that I go through. I am going to help a friend do his battery upgrade and inverter installation in a few weeks. Guess I'll need to dig that checklist out again!

9:41 pm
June 28, 2009


welleking

Mod Newbie

posts 5

Another thing to recognize is that an inverter/charger is a great item but it is not to be connected to a battery system that has a converter connected. If you have  SEPERATE DC system then your only common connection will the the negative /ground. The charging systems will not work together. Unless you have an outstanding charging system the inverter charger is the way to go! Thats MY HONEST OPINION



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